Amazon USA poslovanje (FBA, davki, uvoz v USA)
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Pozdravljeni vsi skupaj.
Ali je morda tukaj kdo od vas, ki prodaja v Amazon USA in bi lahko delil naslednje informacije (lahko tudi na ZS):
1.) Kakšen je postopek, da se izogneš 30% Amazonovi obdavčitvi (sprašujem za poslovanje z Amazonom kot podjetje-Corporate)?
A je res, če to izvedeš nisi več obdavčen po 30%:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKcVIg73Iz4 (link se sicer na naša na Kindle knjige toda to naj bi veljalo tudi za druge izdelke?)
Toda če sem prav razumel uporabnika bluedot je on to izvedel (je Amazonu dal davčno in pridobil je tudi EIN številko...) pa mu Amazon kljub temu zadržuje davek:
http://www.internetmojster.com/splosno/zadrzan-davek-us-amazon.html
2.) Kako naj se pravilno sestavi/nastavi cena za na Amazon? A je tako pravilno npr:
10 $ brez DDVja je npr. nabavna cena izdelka
2 $ brez DDVjastrošek prevoza in uvoza USA
3 $ brez DDVja (Amazon FBA stroški in stroški pošiljanja k stranki)
15 $ skupnih stroškov brez DDVja.
Recimo, da bi želel zaslužiti 5 $/izdelek bi nastavil ceno 20 $ (toda a je to pa Amazonu že cena z davkom ali Amazon sam doda tej ceni še davek -Kolikšen DDV obračuna Amazon? Morda ga obračuna izdelu ko je že v košarici?)
Toda, če imam jaz ceno 20 $ mi bo Amazon nato obračunal še 30% davka, kar znese 6 $?
In tako sem si pridelal 1$ minusa?
Torej moram jaz če želim zaslužiti 5$ moram ceno nastaviti na 26 $ ?
3.) Kako je z uvozom v USA in dostavo v FBA, ker Amazon ima stroga pravila:
Importer of Record
An Importer of Record (IOR) is required for merchandise entering the United States. The IOR is responsible for: (1) ensuring the imported goods comply with local laws and regulations, (2) filing a completed duty entry and associated documents, and (3) paying the assessed import duties and other taxes on those goods.
Amazon, including our fulfillment centers, will not act as an IOR for any shipment of FBA inventory. This applies to shipments of any size or value, regardless of origin and product.
Non-Resident Importers
Entry of goods into the United States may be made by a non-resident (foreign) IOR. To become a non-resident IOR, please contact your customs broker or carrier for details.
Customs Brokers
Customs brokers are private individuals or firms licensed by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) to prepare and file the necessary customs entries, arrange for the payment of duties owed, arrange for the release goods from CBP custody, and otherwise represent importers in customs matters.
To find a list of customs brokers, visit the "Locate a Port of Entry" section of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection website. Select the state you will be importing into, select the city, and then click the Brokers link below the city information. If you do not know what port you are shipping into, Fedex, UPS, DHL, Expeditors International, and Samuel Shapiro are familiar with Amazon policies and may be able to help.
FedEx: www.fedex.com
UPS: www.ups.com
DHL: www.dhl.com
Expeditors International: www.expeditors.com
Samuel Shapiro: www.shapiro.com
We suggest you contact your freight forwarder or courier in advance of shipping any inventory in order to understand their fees and requirements.
Duties, Taxes, and Shipping Costs
Amazon will not be responsible for or collect any duties, taxes or shipping costs associated with FBA inventory. All shipments are required to use Delivered Duty Paid (DDP), or sometimes referred to as “Free Domicile,” shipping terms. Any shipment arriving at an Amazon fulfillment center with collect charges, including any duties, taxes or shipping costs, will be refused without further concession.
Shipping Documentation
An Amazon fulfillment center may be listed as the "deliver to" party on your shipping documentation. Here are some examples of how this should appear on the shipping documentation:
Example 1: Amazon.com.kydc
[Seller Legal Name] c/o FBA
1850 Mercer Drive
Lexington, KY 40511 USA
Example 2: Amazon.com.dedc
[Seller Legal Name] c/o FBA
500 McCarthy
Lewisberry, PA 17339 USA
Please ensure your contact information is included on the shipping documentation in case there are any questions regarding your shipment.
Ultimate Consignee
While Amazon will not act as the Importer of Record, we may be listed as the Ultimate Consignee on your shipping documentation only if the name of the Amazon entity is followed by “in care of FBA.”
If you list Amazon as the Ultimate Consignee, your customs broker must contact Amazon at sellerimports@amazon.com in advance of shipping any inventory to obtain the EIN or Tax ID # required for customs clearance.
Return of Imports
Amazon is currently unable to return inventory stored in Amazon fulfillment centers to an address outside of the United States. Furthermore, FBA does not currently support pick-up options for sellers at Amazon fulfillment centers. If you wish to have your inventory returned to you, you must supply a return address in the United States in the Create Removal Order form within Seller Central.
Commercial invoice-
When your goods are ready for shipment from the manufacturer or distributor, the shipper prepares the commercial invoice. It’s critical that the commercial invoice be accurate to avoid delays clearing customs. The following information should be included on the commercial invoice:
The date of the invoice
The names of the buyer and seller, including addresses(Amazon should not be shown as the buyer or the seller on the commercial invoice).
The name and complete address of the seller or manufacturer
The shipper’s contact name, company name, address, and tax ID number
The ship-to address. Here, enter "In care of," and then the name and address of the Amazon fulfillment center where you are shipping the goods.
Importer of record. This field must contain the shipper's name, if it is the same as the owner of the goods. Do not leave this information blank; this will result in the shipment being refused and returned.
Mode of shipment
Detailed description of the goods being invoiced. Include the following:
Customs Harmonized Codes, if known
Number of units
Unit values
Total value of each product. For samples or products with no commercial value, a nominal or fair-market value must be stated for customs purposes.
The type of currency of the transaction
The terms of the sale. Note that correct terms must be Delivered Duty Paid (DDP). The shipper or FBA seller should pay all applicable duty and taxes and be responsible for clearing customs before delivery to the Amazon fulfillment center.You are not authorized to import goods in the name of Amazon or to show Amazon as the declarant, or importer of record on the customs entry documentation.
Shipment tracking number. For shipments to Amazon fulfillment centers, include the Amazon FBA Shipment ID that you receive when you create the shipment in your Amazon seller account. The shipment tracking number can also be an air waybill number if you are sending the package via a carrier service such as FedEx or UPS.
Any certifications
Name of the carrier transporting the goods
Freight payment terms
Reason for export
Razumem, da sem jaz vse plačam DDP, toda Amazona naj nebi smel navesti na računu, ampak občajno je to potrebno za uvoz.
Morda je rešitev Ultimate Consignee, ki ga ne razumem najbolje...?
Katero ceno izdelka moram napisati na račun za uvoz? Mojo nabavno ceno? Ali končno ceno?
4.) A imate morda izkušnje če UPS in DHL pravilno izvedeta postopek izvoza za FBA v Amazon?
Sprašujem, ker od nobenega izmed obeh omenjenih ponudnikov nisem dobil nekega zagotovila da zadevo obvladajo in da bo vse OK.
Za vašo pomoč že vnaprej hvala.
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Lamakis:
Mene pa zanima, ali res potrebuješ bančni račun v US in kako to sploh urediš? Ali se je komu uspelo registrirati za prodajo na Amazon UK, kjer Slovenije ni pod opcijo?
ne potrebuješ. nakazujejo na EU banke v evrih, vsakih 14 dni, vsak četrtek, transakcija je na računu v torek.
Lep pozdrav vsem skupaj.
Slučajno sem naletel na temo s katero se pravkar ukvarjam in sem bil danes v Ljubljani pri davčnem svetovalcu, ki mi na koncu ni znal nič pomagati, razen nekaj osnovnih informacij o slovenskem DDV-ju, ki pa mi je že od prej vse jasno. Na koncu pa sem mu vseeno moral mastno plačati za svetovanje. Jaz sem na AZ odprl Professional Seller Account, registriral sem se kot individual in dal podatke v imenu svojega s.p.-ja, ter izpolnil W8-BEN obrazec. Iz tega kar sem jaz razumel in kar sem poklikal in napisal v ta obrazec razumem, da sem s to izjavo oproščen obračunavanja davkov za prodane izdelke v ZDA in poročanja njihovemu IRS, saj moja država ima z ZDA sklenjen sporazum o izogibanju dvojnega obdavčenja. Torej, če prav razumem bom DDV na prodane izdelke prijavil in plačal v Sloveniji (če bi izvozil izdelke pa ne vem komu bi plačal DDV, ker v EU sem potem oproščen, torej morda potem v ZDA), torej v prodajno ceno na AZ moram prišteti še 22% DDV. V seller centrali, ko se prijaviš in poiščeš pomoč piše takole:
"Due to Internal Revenue Service (IRS) regulations, U.S. third-party settlement organizations and payment processors, including Amazon, are required to file Form 1099-K for U.S. taxpayer sellers who meet the following thresholds in a calendar year:
More than $20,000 in unadjusted gross sales, and
More than 200 transactions.
IRS regulations require non-U.S. taxpayers to provide Form W-8BEN to Amazon in order to be exempt from U.S. tax reporting requirements."
To isto in še več je opisano tudi na tej strani https://payments.amazon.com/help/201491290#reporting_5
Hmmm, kaj pa če izdelke kupim na kitajskem in jih uvozim v ZDA? V tem primeru nisem DDV dolžan nobenemu plačati? Kitajci so itak veseli, da kupiš od njih in ti mečejo v hrbet (tudi prevoz država subvencionira), v ZDA pa imam oprostitev, ker bom plačal kao v SLO s katero ima SLO prej omenjeni sporazum. Na osnovi česa pa naj plačam v SLO, saj blaga nisem kupil v EU, niti ga uvozil v EU ampak je v tem primeru šlo direktno v ZDA?
Trenutno je moja pošiljka v ZDA, jutri naj bi šla naprej v FBA. Upam, da ne bo zavrnjena s strani AZ, ker nima oznake DDP, da je carina plačana, saj je do določene vrednosti ni potrebno plačati. Kako ste ostali rešili (npr. uros25) z AZ?
Aja, na koncu leta ti AZ pošlje na dom poročilo za davčno (1099 K).
Če boš posiljal iz ZDA, boš po mojem mnenju zavezan za
1. Sales tax (v kolikor se doda za posamezno "state")
2. Carino in druge uvozne takse
3. Verjetno tudi davek na profit, saj v bistvu deluješ tam kot poslovna enota slovenskega podjetja
4.
Ce bos posiljal iz Slovenije, DDVja ne bos obracunal, ker je to izvoz v drzave izven EU.
Bo pa kupec moral plačati uvozne takse, v kolikor je to za artikel ali vrednost potrebno.
Ti moraš namreč ugotoviti, ali ti postanes US tax payer, ce amazon za tebe izvaja skladiscenje in shipping. Če je roba na zalogi v skladiscu v amazonu še v tvoji lasti - se pravi amazon je ni plačal, potem zelo verjetno. Če je amazon to robo kupil od tebe, in jo davčno plačal pred prihodom v US, potem mogoče nisi US tax payer. Lokacija tvojega poslovanja tukaj ni edini odlučujoč faktor.
Enako če amerisko podjetje v EU prodaja storitve, se mora zavezati za DDV. Če pa pošilja artikle fizicne, se pravi uvoz, pakiranje, pošiljanje, pa verjetno mora odprt poslovno enoto, in plačati tako DDV kot tudi davek na dobiček in ostale takse. Druagče krsi kar nekaj zakonov.
Naj me kdo popravi ce se motim.
Mislim, da ima Jure prav, ...
Načeloma nima smisla govorit z našimi računovodji/svetovalci, ker ne poznajo US zakonov. In obratno ni pametno govorit z US CPA-ji, ker v večini ne poznajo non-resident zakonov.
Priporočam pa https://onlinetaxman.com/, ki se ukvarjajo ravno z US non-residents itd
Če kdo deluje na Amazon FBA, lahko mogoče ustvarimo kakšno skupino na Skypeu. Tudi jaz tuhtam, da bi začel. Sicer že poslujem z njimi (eknjige in prodaja appov) in enkrat, ko nekaj postaviš gor, zadeva kar laufa. Do sedaj še nisem imel izgube z njimi.
Ej pozdrav vsem.
Kokr vidm je še vedno dost nejasnih stvari pr vsej FBA Amazon zadevi. Tut sam se vpeljujem v ta biznis mam praktično vse...produkt, supplierja ampak še vedno preveč "nejasnih informacij". Tut jst predlagam da se nardi kšna skyp grupa al pa mogoče tut FB grupa in si lahk tm čim več izkušenj povemo.
Hvala
Za moje pojme najboljša razlaga
http://importdojo.com/how-to-import-to-the-us-for-international-sellers-ship-to-amazon-directly/#comment-7819
Tudi sam sem za, da bi ustvarili kakšno skupino na skypu, trenutno sem še v fazi, računanja vseh stroškov od Amazon Revenue kalkulatorja naprej, ter kreiranja labela in izbora produkta, ki bi ga potem prodajal na Amazonu preko FBA.
Zdravo, mam namen dat produkt na Amazon (FBA), pa bi rabu nekaj informacij kako in kaj itd. Je mogoče kdo tu, ki bi mi lahko odgovoril na nekaj vprašanj? Če je, bi prosil če me kontaktira na zasebno sporočilo.
Hvala 1000x že v naprej :)