@hanyo, se popolnoma strinjam. Ampak mnenje izraziš enkrat, ni treba potem smetit in si dokazovat nasprotno, če si že v osnovi na mestu zabetoniran, in nisi dovzeten za argumente :)

Drugače pa se najbolj obnese, da se ne obremenjuješ s konkurenco,... in se fokusiraš na svoje delo, da je narejeno tako, kot si si zamislil in v roku.

@random, zakaj si sploh tukaj, če te marketing tako živcira? Če iščeš izraz, ki bi opisal tvoje stanje:

svetobolje svetobólje -a s (ọ̑) nazor, ki izraža bolečino, žalost zaradi neskladja med idealom in resničnostjo, hotenjem in dosegljivostjo tega: svetobolje v Stritarjevih delih / predajati se mladostniškemu svetobolju

Pusti nas pri miru. Pojdi svojo pravo pot.

Celotna debata je dostopna tule:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/cultofcopy/permalink/1049701295120352/

Random je prakticno osvojil IM, samo da ne razume, kaj pomeni zavajanje kupcev.

Malo v razmislek.

Colin Theriot

March 13 at 5:57am

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them." - Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, Born Mar. 13, 1911.

Get out the Preparation H because every time his topic comes up, some people get really butthurt.

Look, what we do is lie. Persuasion is deception. Selective application of the truth creates a false version of reality. That's deceptive. There is no clean way to be a deliberate persuader or influencer.

If you told people the truth, you would give them a choice. They can believe truth they decide they don't. That's how real truth works.

But that's not what we do. We don't give choice. We give the illusion of choice. We conceal or remove possible choices that don't fit our goals.

Now listen, don't feel bad. Whoever told you that lying is automatically bad was full of shit. Fiction is lying. Being nice to comfort someone when you don't mean it is lying. Lying can 100% be a good thing.

Don't believe me? Think about why you think Lying is automatically bad? Who told you that? Your parents and other childhood authorities? Can you think of a reason they might instill such absolutes in their young charges?

Because if kids lie to you, you can't control them. Now, ask yourself if these same authority figures who instilled his rejection of dishonesty - did they hold to that same standard?

Fuck no. Grown ups lie to kids all the time. This store doesn't have candy. Santa is watching. That's just uncle Aaron's good friend. Braces won't hurt.

Why? Because you're getting the kid to do what's good for them. Is it the best way? It depends. Do you want to be in control? Because the truth doesn't give you that.

Is telling kids about Santa bad? If no, then sometimes lying is good.

It depends entirely on what you want for the other person. If you leave them better than when you found them - happier, richer, stronger, smarter, whatever - them you did well.

But the reason I think it's important to accept and embrace that we are all liars here - it's because it opens your mind to the real possibilities. It helps you stop holding back. It helps you stop pulling punches. It frees you to really TRY, fully unlimited, to move people with your words and ideas.

No guilt. No fear of a naughty word you were raised to believe was a bad thing you must never ever do.

Lying is good if you want to do this for a living. Am I lying?

bilten:

skrt za plačilo na paypal ni nobene potrebe da ga uporabljaš plača s katerokoli kreditno kartico paypala ni treba ti uporabljat

Zal to velja le za USA - ce na 1. koraku izberes drzavo Slovenia, se obrazec za placilo s kartico spremeni v obrazec za kreiranje Paypal racuna :)

@1qay1qay, točno tako. Samo tega se malokdo zaveda.

Če dam še review Damirjevega reporta, ki sem ga sedaj šeenkrat prebral:

-"Tukaj je na delu dobro znani psihološki prijem, da je strah pred izgubo boljši motivator, kot upanje za pridobitev nečesa." - čist nor koncept, ki ga bom implementiral na vse prodajne strani do konca dneva.

-isti koncept je uporabil Damir in imel kar 14% konverzijo, kar mu je že na prvo žogo prineslo EPS (earnings per subscriber) = 0.41€ !!! In to v nagradni igri!

-v reportu je tudi swipe maila, ki ga je poslal po žrebanju, s katerim je naredil zgornji "EPS".

-14% sodelujočih v nagradni igri je že kupcev, ki bodo nosili denar - 86% jih še čaka, da mu bodo jedli z roke

-ROI nagradne igre je bil cca 12, sepravi je dejansko porabil 0.034€ na dobljen email: FB + viralnost delata čudeže

-do petka imam plan postavit nagradno igro na isti koncept!

@student2000, sem računal, da si take vrste tip. Mogoče boš nekoč dojel, da zastonj kosila ni.

Sem ti priporočil zadevo, ker vem, da ti samo na ta način lahko uspe. In kot piše Damir, ja, boš sam izkusil, da je nagradna igra stran vržen čas in denar. Še vsaka je bila in bo, če se jo boš lotil na način, kot ga imaš v glavi.

“The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried” – Stephen McCranie.

Tole si preberi (klik)- mislim, da ti Damir lahko ponudi cel sistem za bolano viralno nagradno igri.

EDIT: pa ne bit škrtuh, težko boš bolje investiral 10€.

OMG, import models... lih cakam, da mi gume zamenjajo na avtu... cist zares :)

Kdo v tej temi je najbolj potrollal? Ker sem dobesedno zgubljen :D